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Post by hmv4u on Feb 28, 2019 23:04:21 GMT
not being a plumber I'm a bit confused over the lead free solder issue,I'm currently doing some alterations in the bathroom and I have altered the sink hot & cold (mains fed)and used one 15mm end feed 90% on each but I don't have any lead free so used regular solder.The rest of the house which is 20+ years old is (probably) done in lead solder so were do I stand ?
The other thing is do Yorkshire fittings use leaded solder ? if so how does that work ?
lastly I intend to get some lead free but it seems to be 50% dearer than normal solder is that right ? so wheres the best/cheapest place to get some
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Mar 1, 2019 6:04:11 GMT
My understanding is you shouldn’t be using leaded solder on potable water fittings.
I don’t know anyone who uses leaded solder these days.
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 1, 2019 7:12:28 GMT
I haven't seen any leaded solder for a long time either. It runs much nicer than lead free though. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could die of lead poisoning from using leaded solder on fittings so don't worry about it! NB... Google "copper poisoning" (that's one awaiting the snowflakes to find out about)  Tappy, |
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Post by tomplum on Mar 1, 2019 9:13:57 GMT
leaded solder is available at srewfix,toolstation and many other places its half the price of lead free and as tappy says, it runs quicker www.toolstation.com/plumbing-solder/p45610?searchstr=roll%20of%20solder It makes sense to use it on heating and gas and use lead free on potable fittings. I don't know what the fuss is about though, we drank from lead pipes for hundreds of years, but the law is as ass the law, The chances of you ever getting caught using lead solder is about the same as, a snowballs chance in Hell. and the risk of giving someone lead poisoning even greater than that, When I worked on council refurbs , there would always be a clerk of works who has fuck all to do each day only pick faults, he would say. Don't keep the solders together, because you might ( and probably will) use leaded instead of going for more unleaded, and he would''t know unless he saw you use it, There is a way to test, but they never supplied him with a test kit,  |
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Post by DIYDafty on Mar 1, 2019 14:38:59 GMT
My grandmother used to say a bit of lead was good for the constitution. Ok I made that up but it was the sought of thing she would say! Come on as Tom says, people used to drink from entire lengths of lead pipe. Compare that to a tiny amount of lead at the fittings. Having said that, I've got a roll of each and use them when you're supposed to coz I'm english so I just follow the rules and grumble about them.....  |
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Post by glowbug on Mar 1, 2019 16:58:35 GMT
Ive never bothered using lead free. Only because, I read what happened to the Romans! Dont want to handle it myself all the time is my issue😂. Not really bothered either though regards other people using it
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Post by glowbug on Mar 1, 2019 17:33:07 GMT
Never use lead I should correct , always use lead free
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Post by hmv4u on Mar 1, 2019 17:46:45 GMT
thanks for the reply's,I appreciate lead can be harmful in the long run and I will get some lead free solder but as I say the rest of the house pipe is done in it so what to do - funny enough my daughters house c1930s has a length of lead mains pipe still in use and as its embedded in the wall right through the house they don't seem too concerned about having it changed.
to answer my own question about yorkshire fittings it says on their site
THE YORKSHIRE INTEGRAL SOLDER
RING JOINT
During the manufacture of these
precision-made fittings, a ring of high
quality lead-free solder is positioned in
each capillary socket.
oh one last question is the flux required different ?
thanks Howie
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2019 17:50:30 GMT
not being a plumber I'm a bit confused over the lead free solder issue,I'm currently doing some alterations in the bathroom and I have altered the sink hot & cold (mains fed)and used one 15mm end feed 90% on each but I don't have any lead free so used regular solder.The rest of the house which is 20+ years old is (probably) done in lead solder so were do I stand ? The other thing is do Yorkshire fittings use leaded solder ? if so how does that work ? lastly I intend to get some lead free but it seems to be 50% dearer than normal solder is that right ? so wheres the best/cheapest place to get some If it doesn't leak the jobs a good one ! Forget you ever started this conversation and enjoy the rest of your life  |
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Post by glowbug on Mar 1, 2019 19:33:26 GMT
I haven't seen any leaded solder for a long time either. It runs much nicer than lead free though. I wouldn't have thought that anyone could die of lead poisoning from using leaded solder on fittings so don't worry about it! NB... Google "copper poisoning" (that's one awaiting the snowflakes to find out about) Tappy, I got told plumbers never get ill, or will never get a cold. Because touching copper every day kills every bug or virus. Ive got to say, it appears to have held water( pun!) as a theory. The only colds Ive ever had is when havnt touched copper for couple of days! I remember hospitals were going to fit copper door knobs to every ward. Never knew if they did it in the end though. |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 1, 2019 20:05:28 GMT
not being a plumber I'm a bit confused over the lead free solder issue,I'm currently doing some alterations in the bathroom and I have altered the sink hot & cold (mains fed)and used one 15mm end feed 90% on each but I don't have any lead free so used regular solder.The rest of the house which is 20+ years old is (probably) done in lead solder so were do I stand ? The other thing is do Yorkshire fittings use leaded solder ? if so how does that work ? lastly I intend to get some lead free but it seems to be 50% dearer than normal solder is that right ? so wheres the best/cheapest place to get some Oh FFS!! You’ll get arrested by the Lead Police & shot at dawn for that!! This fucking country is bonkers, who the fuck cares!! For starters, what happens when you draw fresh water from a tap, now this is the only water in the home a person will consume, you let the tap run for a while. Now all the stagnant water that was in the small copper pipe will flow down the drain, then you’ll fill your kettle to boil(sterilise the water) & make the tea. Tap water in the UK tastes so shit, nobody drinks it either. Now, if the solder is full fat Lead say, how little of the fittings solder will come in contact with the actual water anyway??!! My Granny died unexpectedly at 101, smoked 40 fags a day, drank Whisky & cheap South African Sherry, but you know what; the family are sure it was the Lead water pipes that ended her short life. I’ve never known anyone with Lead Poisoning from drinking water from Lead Pipes. I’ve had Lead Poisoning from Lead Burning roofing flashing in an on-Site container. |
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Post by glowbug on Mar 1, 2019 20:13:22 GMT
not being a plumber I'm a bit confused over the lead free solder issue,I'm currently doing some alterations in the bathroom and I have altered the sink hot & cold (mains fed)and used one 15mm end feed 90% on each but I don't have any lead free so used regular solder.The rest of the house which is 20+ years old is (probably) done in lead solder so were do I stand ? The other thing is do Yorkshire fittings use leaded solder ? if so how does that work ? lastly I intend to get some lead free but it seems to be 50% dearer than normal solder is that right ? so wheres the best/cheapest place to get some Oh FFS!! You’ll get arrested by the Lead Police & shot at dawn for that!! This fucking country is bonkers, who the fuck cares!! For starters, what happens when you draw fresh water from a tap, now this is the only water in the home a person will consume, you let the tap run for a while. Now all the stagnant water that was in the small copper pipe will flow down the drain, then you’ll fill your kettle to boil(sterilise the water) & make the tea. Tap water in the UK tastes so shit, nobody drinks it either. Now, if the solder is full fat Lead say, how little of the fittings solder will come in contact with the actual water anyway??!! My Granny died unexpectedly at 101, smoked 40 fags a day, drank Whisky & cheap South African Sherry, but you know what; the family are sure it was the Lead water pipes that ended her short life. I’ve never known anyone with Lead Poisoning from drinking water from Lead Pipes. I’ve had Lead Poisoning from Lead Burning roofing flashing in an on-Site container. Where do you get cheap south aftican sherry from! ?Put me down for 1 litre please 😎 |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 1, 2019 20:27:32 GMT
Oh FFS!! You’ll get arrested by the Lead Police & shot at dawn for that!! This fucking country is bonkers, who the fuck cares!! For starters, what happens when you draw fresh water from a tap, now this is the only water in the home a person will consume, you let the tap run for a while. Now all the stagnant water that was in the small copper pipe will flow down the drain, then you’ll fill your kettle to boil(sterilise the water) & make the tea. Tap water in the UK tastes so shit, nobody drinks it either. Now, if the solder is full fat Lead say, how little of the fittings solder will come in contact with the actual water anyway??!! My Granny died unexpectedly at 101, smoked 40 fags a day, drank Whisky & cheap South African Sherry, but you know what; the family are sure it was the Lead water pipes that ended her short life. I’ve never known anyone with Lead Poisoning from drinking water from Lead Pipes. I’ve had Lead Poisoning from Lead Burning roofing flashing in an on-Site container. Where do you get cheap south aftican sherry from! ?Put me down for 1 litre please 😎 Ah, before Buckfast & cheap cider became the popular choice here with the more decerning Jocko, S African Sherry was widely sold in bottles & even in ‘Wine Lodges’ on draught GB👍👍. Several brands were available.... VP, Elderado.......etc etc. There was even a product called Scotmac, which was whisky mixed with Sherry. |
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Post by cylinderfella on Mar 2, 2019 23:05:54 GMT
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