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Post by Astra on Dec 19, 2021 20:09:18 GMT
Hi guy's I have a hot water cylinder change job to do in the Offing Now my question is the old cylinder has a Essex flange fitted for separate hot water feed Now if you look at the attached photo is there any reason why I can not just take a feed off the main top feed in this case 28mm Dia by Tee-in in ............ yes there is a surrey flange fitted as well but I can not see why my suggestion will not work as well as I am not keen on trying to fit the Essex flange ........ Please let me know your thought's Guy's Attachment Deleted |
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Post by battle1066 on Dec 19, 2021 20:58:15 GMT
Hi guy's I have a hot water cylinder change job to do in the Offing Now my question is the old cylinder has a Essex flange fitted for separate hot water feed Now if you look at the attached photo is there any reason why I can not just take a feed off the main top feed in this case 28mm Dia by Tee-in in ............ yes there is a surrey flange fitted as well but I can not see why my suggestion will not work as well as I am not keen on trying to fit the Essex flange ........ Please let me know your thought's Guy's <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> What's the route of the pipework next on it's journey from the suggested Tee - eg up to the loft or down to a shower pump. |
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Post by tomplum on Dec 19, 2021 21:50:34 GMT
Hi Astra, I have done as you are thinking in many situations without any problems, And i would reduce the 28mm to 22 , the flange system is now outdated, They were brought in when shower pumps were a new form of getting a good shower and the thoughts on flanges was that, " the 22 hot water draw off will not be big enough to do the , bath, sink and basin all at the same time", things have changed now so, the Surrey and Essex flanges are like putting STP in your car oil, ( you may not remember that) in short, yes take the feed off the top of the cylinder,  |
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Post by Astra on Dec 20, 2021 17:24:12 GMT
Hi Tom Many thanks for your views good to know I am thinking down the right street
Hi Battle the Essex flange take off leaves the cylinder as in the photo and then goes up into the Loft to feed en-suite
Many thanks Guy's
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Post by battle1066 on Dec 20, 2021 17:46:26 GMT
Hi Tom Many thanks for your views good to know I am thinking down the right street Hi Battle the Essex flange take off leaves the cylinder as in the photo and then goes up into the Loft to feed en-suite Many thanks Guy's Astra if it was going to a pump for a power shower I do everything by the book, cause I've been caught out before and got the bill for a premature pump failure. |
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 20, 2021 20:34:24 GMT
Perhaps it could’ve been a Flow Pipe from a Direct Back Boiler?
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Post by Astra on Dec 21, 2021 20:43:41 GMT
Hi Tom Many thanks for your views good to know I am thinking down the right street Hi Battle the Essex flange take off leaves the cylinder as in the photo and then goes up into the Loft to feed en-suite Many thanks Guy's Astra if it was going to a pump for a power shower I do everything by the book, cause I've been caught out before and got the bill for a premature pump failure. Hi battle May I ask what do you mean by " I would do everything by the book " Hi Dick no back boiler ( never Been fitted ) Since I have started this Thread I have found a local supplier that has cylinders on the shelf with a secondary return / take off already to use or just blank off ,,,,, so now I have a choice ............... |
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Post by tomplum on Dec 21, 2021 21:30:26 GMT
everything by the book is, Battles talking about shower installs where the shower manufacturer will only honour the shower if it is piped up in accordance with their MI's, You are fitting a cylinder so, If the shower does not work properly after your work, you may or may not be responsible for the shower not working, I would say, you are not, others will disagree, I understand your concern and Battles advice and, If i was in your situation Astra, I would do what you are planning, fit the cylinder , get the money you are owed , Then if problems arise later, That is a new job and will depend on how long after your work, the usage, the age of the shower etc etc, You have to use your judgement and instinct, some people will use you to gain free work, if you let them, if it feels right, do it, |
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Post by battle1066 on Dec 22, 2021 17:01:16 GMT
Astra if it was going to a pump for a power shower I do everything by the book, cause I've been caught out before and got the bill for a premature pump failure. Hi battle May I ask what do you mean by " I would do everything by the book " Hi Dick no back boiler ( never Been fitted ) Since I have started this Thread I have found a local supplier that has cylinders on the shelf with a secondary return / take off already to use or just blank off ,,,,, so now I have a choice ............... Astra as Tom says I'm sure your job will be fine with the chosen method suggested. With regards to "By the book" was if your install was on to a shower pump then if as life has it and the pump fails the pump company will send there rep to view the install if your customer has a pump failure issue. The rep will look for any excuse not to honour the pump warranty so it was just the case of forewarned is forearmed! |
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Post by Astra on Dec 23, 2021 15:24:53 GMT
Hi Tom / Battle many thanks for your thoughts and your replies and of course your Great Depth in Knowledge much much appreciated  |
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