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Post by ladyplumber on Apr 23, 2017 11:34:56 GMT
I was servicing a boiler on Friday, It was a Ideal 2000 Wall hung,balanced flue, The client was having trouble with the pilot going out, It had't been touched for years, loads of dirt,dust and dead spiders ( EEEK) I hate spiders, dead or alive, Well I cleaned it checked pressure,flue samples were within tolerances,and i put a new thermacouple in it,The client rang yesterday saying the pilot is still going out, there is no thermal cut out and the boiler stat was working, Can anyone give me any ideas what to look for when I go back,
many thanks, Lizzy,
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Post by joinerjohn on Apr 23, 2017 11:41:37 GMT
Could be the gas valve itself? (do a BG on em and say "Ahh it's a part they no longer make, but I can fit you a new boiler."  |
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Post by ladyplumber on Apr 23, 2017 12:06:26 GMT
Hiya JoinerJohn, I,ve just realized I should have posted this in the plumbers board, perhaps Tom will move it for me, It might be the gasvalve but the gas valve was working good while I was there, I know these can be intermittent, If it is the gasvalve then maybe the client will indeed go for a new boiler,
thanks JoinerJohn
Lizzy
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Post by tomplum on Apr 23, 2017 13:28:53 GMT
Hello Lizzy, those old balanced flued boilers can knock the pilot out if there's an imbalance in the combustion chamber, Its common after a service and the rope seal on the flue outlet hood is broke or not in place proper, What happens is the incoming air short cuts into the outlet flu and sucks the pilot out, Its happen to me a few times, Your FGA would not pick it up because its measuring co levels, So that would be my first thing to look at, use some flue mastic glue the rope back in place, then after that JJ's theory of the gas valve would be my next guess, and as you rightly say, it might mean a new boiler as they are £130 plus, and given the age of the boiler, It might be the best move,  |
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Post by dickpuller on Apr 23, 2017 21:55:53 GMT
Hello Lizzy, those old balanced flued boilers can knock the pilot out if there's an imbalance in the combustion chamber, Its common after a service and the rope seal on the flue outlet hood is broke or not in place proper, What happens is the incoming air short cuts into the outlet flu and sucks the pilot out, Its happen to me a few times, Your FGA would not pick it up because its measuring co levels, So that would be my first thing to look at, use some flue mastic glue the rope back in place, then after that JJ's theory of the gas valve would be my next guess, and as you rightly say, it might mean a new boiler as they are £130 plus, and given the age of the boiler, It might be the best move, Yup I agree with Tom, check all your seals. However, the multifunction Gas Valve maybe on the way out & only producing a 'lazy pilot', add to that a bit of a windy location & you're deffo looking at a new Gas Valve. |
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Post by ladyplumber on Apr 25, 2017 20:36:02 GMT
Hiya.Tom I sussed the fault thanks.It was the flu but not the rope seal. I gave it a good looking at and found loads of rot on the flu walls. Getting a new flu is impossible for this boiler so the client asked for a new boiler quote.
Things are looking good 😃
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Post by tomplum on Apr 25, 2017 20:45:03 GMT
Glad you found the problem and i hope you win the job,, Could you do a boiler install on your own ?, Don't take me wrong, I'm not putting female plumbers down but the lifting is heavy work, those ideal 2000 wieght a ton and need 2 men persons to handle safely , Do you have a helper, I know I would struggle doing a boiler swap on my own,
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Post by ladyplumber on Apr 25, 2017 20:53:28 GMT
Yes thanks Tom. I am aware of the weight and I do have an arrangement with another local plumber who helps me out.He's a great man like yourself Tom. His name is Graeme and I think you two would get on famously.He's been a big help to me. He also suggested it was a flu problem
Lizzy
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