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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jan 8, 2018 17:08:54 GMT
Hello
Are there any tricks to fix a weeping/leaking joint if there’s water in the pipe?
Thx
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Post by tomplum on Jan 8, 2018 17:37:33 GMT
not as far as i know rocky, you cannot solder with water present because, the water takes the heat away, PB says he knows a trick to get round it but he's not said what it is yet,, when he does tell, We'll do a video about it,, foto
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jan 8, 2018 17:44:56 GMT
not as far as i know rocky, you cannot solder with water present because, the water takes the heat away, PB says he knows a trick to get round it but he's not said what it is yet,, when he does tell, We'll do a video about it,, foto Cheers Tom It’s what I thought anyway Let’s hope PB knows a trick. I await with enthusiasm |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:04:26 GMT
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Post by crowsfoot on Jan 8, 2018 20:53:38 GMT
It's not really a trick this, but say you're soldering a joint when water suddenly takes the heat away so you then turn the blowlamp up to maximum heat and try to boil the water out, the solders almost running, yet it's not quite making it - just before you give in and take the joint apart it's worth moving the blowlamp a foot up the pipework in the direction the water seems to be coming from and give this section maximum heat for a couple of minutes, then dip the solder in the flux and fast as you can go back to the joint go straight in with the solder and with a bit of luck you will have bought a couple of seconds to make the joint before the water re-appears.
This little tip has worked for me quite a few times and was shown to me by an older plumber many years ago.
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jan 9, 2018 7:26:29 GMT
It's not really a trick this, but say you're soldering a joint when water suddenly takes the heat away so you then turn the blowlamp up to maximum heat and try to boil the water out, the solders almost running, yet it's not quite making it - just before you give in and take the joint apart it's worth moving the blowlamp a foot up the pipework in the direction the water seems to be coming from and give this section maximum heat for a couple of minutes, then dip the solder in the flux and fast as you can go back to the joint go straight in with the solder and with a bit of luck you will have bought a couple of seconds to make the joint before the water re-appears. This little tip has worked for me quite a few times and was shown to me by an older plumber many years ago. What if the pipes full of water? Say from the hWC. Full with 150 litres of the stuff. |
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Post by tomplum on Jan 9, 2018 9:04:40 GMT
if you're trying to solder a full of water pipe,cylinder or vessle, you have no chance, no chance at all, to solder you need three things, 1. clean copper 2. flux to stop oxidation taking place 3. heat, If water is in the pipes cylinder the heat will disperse and you'll never get the copper to the temperature hot enough to melt the solder, Its impossible,  |
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jan 9, 2018 10:08:31 GMT
if you're trying to solder a full of water pipe,cylinder or vessle, you have no chance, no chance at all, to solder you need three things, 1. clean copper 2. flux to stop oxidation taking place 3. heat, If water is in the pipes cylinder the heat will disperse and you'll never get the copper to the temperature hot enough to melt the solder, Its impossible, Agreed So it’ll be a drain down. |
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Post by crowsfoot on Jan 10, 2018 7:30:33 GMT
It's not really a trick this, but say you're soldering a joint when water suddenly takes the heat away so you then turn the blowlamp up to maximum heat and try to boil the water out, the solders almost running, yet it's not quite making it - just before you give in and take the joint apart it's worth moving the blowlamp a foot up the pipework in the direction the water seems to be coming from and give this section maximum heat for a couple of minutes, then dip the solder in the flux and fast as you can go back to the joint go straight in with the solder and with a bit of luck you will have bought a couple of seconds to make the joint before the water re-appears. This little tip has worked for me quite a few times and was shown to me by an older plumber many years ago. What if the pipes full of water? Say from the hWC. Full with 150 litres of the stuff. As tom said it's a no goer. My tip is just no more than a last gasp attempt, however, it is well worth a shot. |
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Post by tomplum on Jan 10, 2018 22:23:59 GMT
Talks have been going on in the studio, We now know what PB's idea is and there will be a video soon,,  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 22:34:19 GMT
Talks have been going on in the studio, We now know what PB's idea is and there will be a video soon,, 1787034013 yippee |
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