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Post by battle1066 on Mar 21, 2018 21:46:32 GMT
I can see plenty flooding issues in the future off those plastic fitting with Orings damaged by crap in the lines from day to day use. As they say "if you want high reliability replace any seals and Orings you disturb"! That's just not going to happen!
Now would you have that plastic set up in your own home Dick?
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Post by tomplum on Mar 21, 2018 21:54:03 GMT
I used to think that too Battle, acorn the first pushfit pipe has been about since the early 1980's and I've been to jobs where its still working and no problems at all, acorn changed to hep2o sometime later and is imho the best pushfit system with JG speedfit the number 2 in the league, hep20 give a 50 year guarrantee and speedfit give a 25 year guarranteee, If its installed and tested as per the MI's its ok in my book,  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 22:05:07 GMT
I'm a JG man, good price, good product and user friendly |
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 22, 2018 7:00:45 GMT
Nice pictures Dick of a side of plumbing that I've never done (new builds). Sad to see that we've gone back to that chipboard flooring (dreadful stuff) after a return spell with proper floorboards. I've come across the mixing valve under the bath before, they and pressure reducing valves are already giving me problems in repairs to new builds. I suppose it's all done at a break neck pace and if those push fits don't get fully pushed on or seal quite right then there's the potential for a real nasty job in the future! That's how I cut my hand up last year  ! |
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 22, 2018 7:11:36 GMT
I'm a JG man, good price, good product and user friendly  As long as you always remember to lock them in place. |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 22, 2018 19:49:48 GMT
I can see plenty flooding issues in the future off those plastic fitting with Orings damaged by crap in the lines from day to day use. As they say "if you want high reliability replace any seals and Orings you disturb"! That's just not going to happen! Now would you have that plastic set up in your own home Dick? I’m with Tom mate, started using Bartol Acorn in the early 80’s. While like most Plumbers I’d always prefer copper, but there will always be a place for push fit. A new build install will be hydrologicaly pressure tested to 14-16Bar & yes I’ve had fittings blow off. You’d be bonkers not to pressure test your work. |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 22, 2018 20:04:13 GMT
Nice pictures Dick of a side of plumbing that I've never done (new builds). Sad to see that we've gone back to that chipboard flooring (dreadful stuff) after a return spell with proper floorboards. I've come across the mixing valve under the bath before, they and pressure reducing valves are already giving me problems in repairs to new builds. I suppose it's all done at a break neck pace and if those push fits don't get fully pushed on or seal quite right then there's the potential for a real nasty job in the future! That's how I cut my hand up last year ! Well the floor comes ready assembled in cassettes & Craned onto the Timer Frame kit Crowsfoot, so there’s the OSB ‘I’ beam joists, 18mm OSB stuck to that in the Factory & the Kit Errector Joiners finally lay 22mm chipboard on top of that. On most Sites the roofs are completely built on the ‘footprint’ of the plot & the Crane lifts it to one side while the Timer Panels are erected, then the Crane lifts the whole roof on top. We pressure test after first fix. Yeah, it is a fast pace & the young guys are very fast indeed!! |
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 23, 2018 7:09:42 GMT
A lot of pre-fabrication going on these days then dick. It was those ruddy metal joists that cut up my hand when I was trying to cut the md pipe in situ. I took some skirting off plus a section of the chipboard floor and tried all ways to get my hand in so I could cut the pipe - each stroke of the saw blade took a little bit of skin off the back of my hand, what a ruddy job !! I suppose it must have been initially pressure tested, but it somehow survived the test. It was the 2nd time it had shot off too, the first time the ceiling was taken down for access and it was just pushed back into the elbow. |
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Post by endfeed on Mar 23, 2018 13:45:29 GMT
What's m.d pipe c/f,  |
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 23, 2018 20:29:58 GMT
Oooops, I'm not sure either e/f?
Think that I might of meant to type barrier PEX pipe.
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Post by endfeed on Mar 23, 2018 20:35:58 GMT
👍 cheers c/f if I see something I've not heard of I have this need to know!!! think I need to get out more 😂😂😂😂
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