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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 14:50:56 GMT
Went to the job I mentioned in a previous post with my endoscopic camera thingy.
This was the leak.
On the little screen I couldn't see the colour too well so I presumed it was copper, now I've seen it on my PC screen it's white plastic. There's no pushfit in the property so looks like an overflow, however the toilet and HW cylinder are nowhere near the overflow level.
This is in a flat and the next door flat apparantly has a bathroom on the other side of the wall.
What do you reckon?
Next door has an active overflow and they're teed into the same pipework?
The owner of the flat hasn't had any work done for 20 years behind that wall so it pre-dates John Guest etc. Also, it looks solvent weld so was there anything like that 20 years ago that might be under pressure? Like alkathene etc. but white?
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 14:52:20 GMT
I'm gonna pop back now and have another check based on this probably being an overflow pipe. Will let you know how I get on, no prizes, but first to guess right wins  |
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 15:45:20 GMT
Well I went back and had a check for overflows, the cylinder one goes straight outside and the toilet doesn't have one, it's a fluidmaster flush that has an overflow into the pan.
Checked next door and they also have no overflow in the toilet which back onto the same bit of wall as my job. However there is some overflow pipe coming in through the wall beside the toilet, elbows down, then left then goes into a 40mm waste which elbows back into the wall. It was minging too, stunk of piss and was mouldy as hell.
My guess now is that it is redundant overflow pipe in the wall cavity and maybe it's shared with the above flats, the buggers weren't in though so called it a day.
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jun 15, 2018 16:13:39 GMT
Can you reach it to fix it without taking the wall apart?
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 16:43:21 GMT
Nope, all behind a tiled boxing that runs from floor to ceiling. TBH I'm hoping it's coming from an overflowing toilet above, looks a proper messy, awkward job. I've overestimated my bill though so silver linings and all that  |
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Opinions?
Jun 15, 2018 16:49:27 GMT
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Post by endfeed on Jun 15, 2018 16:49:27 GMT
Any pics of your camera j c?
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 20:20:32 GMT
It's only a cheapo. Uses my phone as a screen via wifi, think it was about £40 but has come in handy a few times, will post a pic in a mo
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 20:24:32 GMT
Here it is, like I say it's come in handy a few times now and not had it long. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 15, 2018 20:31:05 GMT
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Post by battle1066 on Jun 15, 2018 20:49:36 GMT
Well this thread has been both interesting and educational JC - hope you find its just a common overflow and upstairs flat cistern is overflowing.
However, Not me but a pal, once got a tricky one with a common overflow (in a block of flats) and the offending item was a fish tank which had an auto fill and flush system which choked the common overflow pipework this resulted in the water backing up into another flat cistern, so some jobs are just tricky and require detective work before the repair.
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Post by crowsfoot on Jun 16, 2018 18:21:22 GMT
Went to the job I mentioned in a previous post with my endoscopic camera thingy. This was the leak. On the little screen I couldn't see the colour too well so I presumed it was copper, now I've seen it on my PC screen it's white plastic. There's no pushfit in the property so looks like an overflow, however the toilet and HW cylinder are nowhere near the overflow level. This is in a flat and the next door flat apparantly has a bathroom on the other side of the wall. What do you reckon? Next door has an active overflow and they're teed into the same pipework? The owner of the flat hasn't had any work done for 20 years behind that wall so it pre-dates John Guest etc. Also, it looks solvent weld so was there anything like that 20 years ago that might be under pressure? Like alkathene etc. but white? Looks like a leaking condense pipe from a combi boiler to me is that possible JC? |
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 16, 2018 19:30:40 GMT
No mate, no gas in the building, all immersion cylinders. If it's not a shared overflow and upstairs don't have an overfilling loo/cylinder I'll be taking the lump hammer round next week |
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 29, 2018 14:09:15 GMT
Well finally got to look in the 2 upstairs flats today, both loos are overfilling but neither use an external overflow. They are both rerouted so the overflow goes into the low level flush pipe. In one of the flats you can see where the overflow pipe used to go through the wall into the shared cavity that has the soil pipe in it. But no real access to the cavity to check behind the wall. My customer is selling the property in about a year so they don't want to fork out for anyone to start breaking through walls especially when there is still no definite indication of where the water is coming from. It's all very mysterious  This will probably remain a mystery.. |
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Jun 29, 2018 14:18:58 GMT
Well finally got to look in the 2 upstairs flats today, both loos are overfilling but neither use an external overflow. They are both rerouted so the overflow goes into the low level flush pipe. In one of the flats you can see where the overflow pipe used to go through the wall into the shared cavity that has the soil pipe in it. But no real access to the cavity to check behind the wall. My customer is selling the property in about a year so they don't want to fork out for anyone to start breaking through walls especially when there is still no definite indication of where the water is coming from. It's all very mysterious This will probably remain a mystery.. I hope you’ve charged appropriately for your time & effort. |
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Post by jcplumb on Jun 29, 2018 18:23:32 GMT
Well finally got to look in the 2 upstairs flats today, both loos are overfilling but neither use an external overflow. They are both rerouted so the overflow goes into the low level flush pipe. In one of the flats you can see where the overflow pipe used to go through the wall into the shared cavity that has the soil pipe in it. But no real access to the cavity to check behind the wall. My customer is selling the property in about a year so they don't want to fork out for anyone to start breaking through walls especially when there is still no definite indication of where the water is coming from. It's all very mysterious This will probably remain a mystery.. I hope you’ve charged appropriately for your time & effort. Of course Was only there 10 minutes so minimum callout of £30, From there I went to a job about 5 minutes away where the hot water had stopped working in both upstairs bathrooms, put my hand over a mixer tap, turned hot and cold on, 10 seconds later full flow restored, also charged them my minimum and was back home 45 minutes after I set off with 4 boxes of John Smiths. Asda is also close by and the news says beer's running out because of a co2 shortage so stocking up on essentials. Not a bad Friday afternoons work hehe |
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