hmv4u
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Post by hmv4u on Apr 7, 2019 11:09:07 GMT
noticed a few new firms I visit have the press fit couplings in new toilet blocks/extensions and wondered how common its becoming amongst the plumbing fraternity ?
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Apr 7, 2019 12:17:38 GMT
I’ve never seen it. Looks ok to me seen on pics etc.
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Post by Mr Angry on Apr 7, 2019 13:26:10 GMT
It's like a Lego set and it suits the lesser plumber that can't cut it with the elite group.  |
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Post by tomplum on Apr 7, 2019 15:38:54 GMT
contractors who do, hospitals,public building, timber frame dwellings all favour it because there is no fire risk and it looks neater than push fit, Us one man bands who have to compete price wise, use soldered fittings,  |
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Post by leepoll71 on Apr 8, 2019 18:23:40 GMT
Its all we use at work, not allowed any hot works anymore.
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Post by crowsfoot on Apr 8, 2019 19:28:46 GMT
I've no doubt that in 20 years time this stuff will be obsolete along with all the fittings.
Seen this happen many times before (right now though it's very in for new builds).
The "Polyorc" of the future?
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Post by tomplum on Apr 8, 2019 20:25:12 GMT
20 years ago fusion plastic was ' all the rage' its not used anymore and what was fitted has been replaced, Crowsfoot might be right because, its not cheap, you need special tools, that are also, not cheap, the good ole copper pipe 'n endfeed are cheap, BUT you need a trained person to get it right, they're trying to de grade a plumbers worth, which will never happen, plumbing is much more that joining pipes,  |
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Post by cylinderfella on Apr 8, 2019 21:26:03 GMT
I've no doubt that in 20 years time this stuff will be obsolete along with all the fittings. Seen this happen many times before (right now though it's very in for new builds). The "Polyorc" of the future? I agree, it'll go the same way as many things have gone. Many people had VHS tapes but who had the rival...... Betamax?!!! Attachment DeletedReminds me of how large that pressfit gadget is! |
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Post by DIYDafty on Apr 8, 2019 22:21:26 GMT
Surely is a lot faster than soldering and comes with the same benefits ? Presumably that's why the new build industry likes them?
Doesn't look good for repairs though - the machines look big and clumsy to get into a tight corner where most repairs seem to be located !
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Post by crowsfoot on Apr 9, 2019 6:17:03 GMT
Companies get taken over, some go bankrupt and that funny sized plastic with a low profit margin and specialised fittings gets withdrawn from circulation leaving miles of the stuff in use and a huge problem for the plumber.
This as always been the problem with plastics because there as never been any standardisation of it - each company making their own brand a slightly different size on purpose so that you can't use a different brand on the one that you're using.
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Apr 9, 2019 7:01:45 GMT
20 years ago fusion plastic was ' all the rage' its not used anymore and what was fitted has been replaced, Crowsfoot might be right because, its not cheap, you need special tools, that are also, not cheap, the good ole copper pipe 'n endfeed are cheap, BUT you need a trained person to get it right, they're trying to de grade a plumbers worth, which will never happen, plumbing is much more that joining pipes, I totally agree, the young plumbers who only use pressfit will lose the skill of soldering. It’s a bit like the plumber losing the skill of lead work |
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Post by dickpuller on Apr 9, 2019 19:31:39 GMT
I’m on New Builds most of the time, its pushfit plastic & endfeed on copper. Pressfit is too expensive for house bashers & to ‘gear up’ for it with the number of Sites & Plumbers we have would be silly money!!
Plus National Builders get direct kickbacks from Plastic Manufacturers in the form of ‘Rebates’, but it’s unlikely the copper fittings manufacturers would do that. So it’s unlikely to change.
As for me personally, I’ve used it, think it’s slow & clumbsy. Has an O ring the same as Pushfit, so where’s the advantage??
Endfeed fittings are neat & reliable.
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Post by DIYDafty on Apr 9, 2019 21:12:14 GMT
And presumably they're not rated for gas either?
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Post by dickpuller on Apr 10, 2019 5:39:19 GMT
And presumably they're not rated for gas either? Oh you can get Gas Pressfit fitting Dafty, but they’re even more expensive. The so called puritans in the industry(course cowboys living in affluent areas) tend to use them, but End Feed is the reality for most of us👍👍 |
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