hmv4u
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Post by hmv4u on May 5, 2019 10:13:27 GMT
As someone with an interest in watching people of all trades doing what they do well(youtube) I watch loads of channels-which is how I came across Tom and came to be here-one is by a guy called PBPlumber -jobbing plumber and its interesting to see how neat he does his joints -they look virtually solder free and where they are on show under boilers he sometimes swages them to make them to look even neater and wire wool's them afterwards
Personally I think any joint that doesn't leak is a good joint but as professionals do you take time to make your joints neat or is it a case of in ,get done and out ?
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Post by tomplum on May 5, 2019 12:34:37 GMT
In my experiance most plumbers put loads of solder on because they like to be sure the solder has gone all the way round, Also price work and bonus work does not allow for ' doing it again or fixing leaks' so joints tend to look messy PB's a hollywood plumber, he would not last half a day on site work or fitting heating to a schedule, there's no time for polishing pipework on contract work,  |
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Post by glowbug on May 5, 2019 12:46:14 GMT
I think most apprentices taught over 20 years ago & more ,were taught old school ,and dont worry too much. I saw pb soldering ,and thought must do better and improve my own though! So i made a conscious effort to solder neater.I dont do much , only on boiler swaps.Ive always tried to keep my ears open to new tips and improvements ,so well done to anyone who does youtube advisory clips.
Years ago Ive seen joiners/kitchen fitters solder in sinks etc., and it couldn't be faulted. They used capillary joints and had it brassoed up after!! Plumbing isn't just about one skill aspect though. I would have to tell my joiner pal when he kept claiming his copper work was neater than most plumbers. 👻
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Post by battle1066 on May 5, 2019 13:20:53 GMT
If time allows I do my best to keep everything very tidy but some jobs won't allow it cause of the redo work if it leaks.
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Post by glowbug on May 5, 2019 15:23:43 GMT
If time allows I do my best to keep everything very tidy but some jobs won't allow it cause of the redo work if it leaks. Yes battle , when in a nasty tight spot, doing a double jointed acrobatic position whilst soldering , as Henry would say “ splash it all over”😂 |
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Post by glowbug on May 5, 2019 15:32:19 GMT
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Post by woodbine66 on May 6, 2019 9:30:41 GMT
A good joint is one that doesn't leak and doesn't look like a well used candle, with snots running down the pipe. Sounds a bit OCD using wire wool on new pipes. Plumberpants even uses Brasso on his.
But do customers even notice? |
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Post by cylinderfella on May 6, 2019 12:18:37 GMT
Then they paint the pipes and joints to make it a nightmare for the next guy!!  |
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Post by crowsfoot on May 6, 2019 15:05:56 GMT
I usually go round with the brush dipped in flux just to get the dew drops off, it's also gives a bit of extra security (just in case the joints not run properly).
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hmv4u
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Post by hmv4u on May 6, 2019 22:09:48 GMT
I suppose if your showing off your skills on youtube you want it to look good but as suspected the average tradesman (my self included) wants their work to look neat but without spending a huge amount of time and effort on it,regards the comment will the customer notice the extra effort put in,well some wont but I think most people on a new installation would-if as a customer your paying for something you want it to work and look nice,years ago I had a plumber and his apprentice in to fit a gas boiler and alter the pipe work accordingly,the plumber left his apprentice to alter some central heating pipes and he put a pipe across a small gap which we used for storage and to be truthful I didn't like but said nothing,when the plumber returned he took one look at it,gave him a bollocking and made him change it - teaching pride in your work I suppose
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Post by dickpuller on May 7, 2019 18:36:08 GMT
In my experiance most plumbers put loads of solder on because they like to be sure the solder has gone all the way round, Also price work and bonus work does not allow for ' doing it again or fixing leaks' so joints tend to look messy PB's a hollywood plumber, he would not last half a day on site work or fitting heating to a schedule, there's no time for polishing pipework on contract work, Very, very true Tom. This Trade, like many, is about skill & speed. |
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Post by pisartist on May 7, 2019 19:16:00 GMT
why shine your pipes when you can fookn paint them silver. shit soldern sorted
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