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Post by cylinderfella on Jun 16, 2019 18:25:04 GMT
Yes!Very handy for all those lamps around the place
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Post by battle1066 on Jun 16, 2019 18:45:59 GMT
A very interesting article and can see how it would help many a person but I find keeping it simple means 99% of the time any faults are fixed in one visit, now once we upscale the complexities the bill increases and the repair time greatly increase as there's that much to read and program up.
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Post by hmv4u on Jun 17, 2019 21:46:30 GMT
apologies I got the ebay model wrong,there are 3 different models with 2 types of each model,the NO-WiFi model is the £14 one and the Wifi models start from £22+ so gas boiler heating none wifi is BHT-002GC while the wifi one is BHT-002GCLW I have edited the original link
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Post by dickpuller on Jun 23, 2019 16:15:17 GMT
A very interesting article and can see how it would help many a person but I find keeping it simple means 99% of the time any faults are fixed in one visit, now once we upscale the complexities the bill increases and the repair time greatly increase as there's that much to read and program up. Oh there’s no question simple On/Off controls are simple. However, with modulating condensing gas boilers the Skool of Thought has changed & for economic reasons Home temperatures are more controllable with systems like Opentherm - a point-to-point digital protocol system. These systems can monitor the ambient temperature better & romp up or down the boiler according to the heating requirements. Modern Systems in well insulated homes use these controls & unlike the old ‘two on/off’ Periods per day, the heating is on a ‘set back’ temperature & is never really off. The system just ‘ticks over’ all day & night. Also, there’s an increasing move for condensing boilers to be Hot Water Priority, this means that the high temperature requirement of a cylinder can be achieved quickly(especially with a quick recovery coil) & the CH then run at a lower temperature, therefore having the boiler in condensing mode more often.
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Post by DIYDafty on Jun 24, 2019 20:25:36 GMT
So here's a maybe daft question.
I'm building up this spare room and have figured how to have the rad in it controlled be a separate combined thermostat/programmer. As I understand it, I basically get a third zone valve added on to my S plan and have the new programmer control that.
This danfoss £10 jobby just arrived from ebay today and it has an optional hot water circuit and it got me thinking. Wouldn't it be nice if the new occpuant of the "spare room cum studio annex" could schedule hot water. So the question is could I wire this in paralel with the existing main house programmer so that if either the main house programmer calls for HW or the new programmer calls for HW then the HW zone is turned on (subject to cylinder stat of course).
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Post by battle1066 on Jun 25, 2019 14:53:11 GMT
So here's a maybe daft question. I'm building up this spare room and have figured how to have the rad in it controlled be a separate combined thermostat/programmer. As I understand it, I basically get a third zone valve added on to my S plan and have the new programmer control that. This danfoss £10 jobby just arrived from ebay today and it has an optional hot water circuit and it got me thinking. Wouldn't it be nice if the new occpuant of the "spare room cum studio annex" could schedule hot water. So the question is could I wire this in paralel with the existing main house programmer so that if either the main house programmer calls for HW or the new programmer calls for HW then the HW zone is turned on (subject to cylinder stat of course). Well it is an option and if you post the instructions up for both I or other members could study it more closely before saying yes, but you quiet often have limited terminal space and toget two conductors into many of the modern devices is hopeless task.
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Post by dickpuller on Jun 25, 2019 15:28:18 GMT
For HW, just leave it on 24/7. Or you could incorporate a Relay into your controls.
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Post by hmv4u on Jun 25, 2019 16:39:19 GMT
Just a DIyer but Id think if the hot waters via a hot water cylinder like mine then there's a fair reservoir of hot water built up so unless they are going to be using a lot extra what suits you HW wise should cover their needs ?
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Post by DIYDafty on Jun 25, 2019 20:52:53 GMT
Cheers for the replies on the HW subject.
I think technically speaking mr puller is on the money. If you connected both programmers without using a relay, then as soon as one switches the call for HW on, the other programmer would receive the live cable which it wouldn't expect. At least I think that's right ?
The wiring is already a rats nest inside a box in the airing cupboard but presumably I could put in a bigger one or add in another choc box.
Also good points about maybe having HW on 24/7 would solve any issues. My thinking was I've gutted this room and am adding circuits etc anyway so running more cable isn't a big deal.
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