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Post by jitasb on Aug 13, 2019 11:17:06 GMT
Hello.
I am replacing my old ensuite shower upstairs. It was an old tray with riser legs and I want to use the newer low profile trays. In the picture attached I have removed the tray and some floorboards to get the layout underneath.
So I am looking to put in a tray of 850mm x 750mm (or 850mm x 800mm).
The white waste pipe in picture was already in place and was previously attached to the old shower trap.
My question is about future maintenance, as they advise an access hatch to be cut in so that any work can be done if required.
But in my set-up the low profile tray will sit on top of floorboards and the waste will be under the floor boards. The tray will extend up to just short of the door way.
Because of the joists positioning, I can't really see how any sort of maintenance could be done ? You might be able to get an arm in there, but with no visual access?
Just wondered f anyone had any thoughts or done something similar ?
Thanks.
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Post by tomplum on Aug 13, 2019 11:30:19 GMT
hello jitasb and welcome to the brewcabin, Yes you are right, there is no practical way of future repairs being done to a floor level shower tray, Its the way people like them and they have to face problems in the future by going over that bridge when/if it arrives, Very often it involves the tray coming out or a hole being cut from below, Bathrooms now are designed by women who have't got a clue on how plumbing works but like how it looks, 99.99999% of cutomers don't want a access point put in their tiled floor and that is the 'get out of jail card' for the supplier and plumber,  |
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Post by cluelesskarl on Aug 13, 2019 16:46:50 GMT
Hi jitasb, and welcome! I can't offer you any more help than Tom. Mainly because I'm not a plumber, and he knows what he is talking about!  I do know what it is like to struggle/get paid rather nicely, because the customer knows best though... Make it accessible, you'll save a lot in the future not having to rip your bathroom apart.
On a separate note, what program did you use to put the lines on your picture? |
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Aug 13, 2019 17:26:04 GMT
I’d just say test the bollux out of it before the floor goes back in, test for leaks, test it drains properly, test the tray doesn’t move so the waste can’t get loose
Test it to an inch of its life
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Post by ian on Aug 13, 2019 17:26:07 GMT
Fit it properly and you shouldn't need any future maintenance. Make sure your waste has a proper fall, minimal bends, is clipped up properly and can easily be snaked. Use a solvent weld waste rather than a compression and take care to fit it to the tray properly and with no stress on the pipe.
Job done.
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Post by battle1066 on Aug 13, 2019 18:35:32 GMT
All of the above pointers, plus buy the best quality waste for trapping hair you can stretch the budget to, if there's plenty females in the house, cause hair is an issues.
Also use good quality silicon and tray upstanding seal and instal as so
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Post by jitasb on Aug 13, 2019 20:20:11 GMT
Hi jitasb, and welcome! I can't offer you any more help than Tom. Mainly because I'm not a plumber, and he knows what he is talking about! I do know what it is like to struggle/get paid rather nicely, because the customer knows best though... Make it accessible, you'll save a lot in the future not having to rip your bathroom apart.
On a separate note, what program did you use to put the lines on your picture? I edited the picture with the standard Paint software > comes free with all Windows operating systems. Bit old-fashioned I know. I should add > I measured the distances manually using a tape measure and added the figures into paint (i.e. I didn't use any software to automatically calculate the distances) |
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Post by jitasb on Aug 13, 2019 20:29:21 GMT
Thanks for all the advice. Testing it "Live" is a good idea. Since it is our own house I guess don't need to put the complete floor down straight away. Leave it for a week's worth of showers and see if it works ok. Not sure how the family would react though whenever they have a shower > and I run upstairs and stick my head under the floorboards to see if any leaks are visible  I will use solvent weld rather then compression. But presumably the shower trap itself is always threaded ? So will need a compression fitting ? |
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Post by cluelesskarl on Aug 14, 2019 16:55:11 GMT
Thanks for the reply jitasb!
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I do know what it is like to struggle/get paid rather nicely, because the customer knows best though... Make it accessible, you'll save a lot in the future not having to rip your bathroom apart. 
