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Post by tomplum on Mar 19, 2020 17:46:56 GMT
alas Woody I don't have the pipe clamps nor any of the other stuff needed and to do it authentically a petrol or paraffin lamp would need to be used because, that's all we used back then, which is a new challenge all of its own, Those plumber's skill level is lost and forgotton. In my early days, ( about 19 years old) I was sent to fix a busted back boiler, The old copper square box at the back of the fire, A very messy dirty job and it was very restricted for reaching in and making the two lead joint, there was only enough room for one hand to make the joints, When I finished the basterd leaked. I had several goes and it failed every time, The plumber came for me in the van expecting it done, so he was grumpy as fuck, he grabbed the blow torch and in 10 minutes made two beautiful oval shaped lead joints with one hand whilst smoking a woodbine and muttering insults about how the lads today are , thick, useless lumps of shite and not fit to wipe his arse, And still today, could not make joints like he could,
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Post by clart on Mar 19, 2020 19:12:39 GMT
Maybe Mr Puller could do a video... >.<
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 20, 2020 7:15:20 GMT
I don't think any plumber would use a tool like that on site because they all had other methods of securing the 4u to the lead pipe so that it wouldn't move whilst the joint was being wiped. The two methods that I would use were bent over doubled up wires pushed into the end of the pipe, also thin timber wooden splints, again pushed into the pipe to hold it firm. I'm sure that they where many more methods than those two above. N.B. The only time that I used clamps like those was at collage - in those days we all had long hair and as I bent over the joint with my head to see how it was looking on the other side I lifted my head back up to find my hair was alight!!
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 20, 2020 7:46:09 GMT
Maybe Mr Puller could do a video... >.< Mate, if I’m in the bowels of my garage & find it I certainly will do one👍 Before the days of Leadlok etc, we wiped ball joints, but only ever Lead to copper. As an apprentice, you did two joints in the Workshop, one on the Bench & one under the Bench. If you didn’t do a perfect Ball Joint, you got you’re arse kicked!! Later on when we could get away with it, we’d do a Tinkers Wipe, which was just a single wipe bell shaped. The auld cunt would give you dogs abuse for doing it. Old bastard was a fantastic craftsman & I miss him. But hey, we had plenty time back then - not like today. My day; 3/4hr per radiator. 6hrs to sling in & pipe a combi. 2hrs to fit & pipe a Bath 2hrs to fit & pipe a WC. Such is life in New Build!
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Post by endfeed on Mar 20, 2020 10:06:40 GMT
yep, also you'd need some bar solder, tinning solder ,a tanpin ,spoke shaver, a mole cloth, plumbers black and the lost skill of wiping a joint ( and its nothing to do with spilfs ) I've tubs of plumbers black on the merchants shelf's Tom what is it?
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Post by tomplum on Mar 20, 2020 14:53:35 GMT
it was a solder proof coating that was used in a similar way that a painter uses masking tape, So any melted solder running down the pipe, did not stick and give that 'candle dripping' affect, Yesterdays plumbers were proud of their joints, a good joint needed to be, bulb shaped,a shiney tinned with the wiping marks smooth in one direction and the edges neat, like they'd been painted on, plumber black gave them that neat edge,
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