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Post by rocketmanbkk on Aug 10, 2020 15:59:58 GMT
Old lady has a twin 1.8 bar Stuart turner showermate. She reckons it’s been working for 20 years.
I’ve gone there today & there’s no life. Nothing. I undid the bar shower & no water, not a trickle, dry as a bone.
I got an old pump I had at home & wired it up, water coming out of the hose in a bucket but nothing coming out of the shower.
Maybe an air lock but the pressure out of the pump is pretty good.
Any thoughts?
Is it a shower issue, pump issue or both?
Gravity system.
Cheers all
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Post by tomplum on Aug 10, 2020 19:08:23 GMT
Am I understanding this right, when you wired your spare pump, it pushed water through the shower hose but, not through the shower head ? To get the air lock our, my first approach is turn the shower on and lay the shower as low as you can get it, Sometimes that works, Anyway if she has had twenty years out of that shower, she's done good, give her an orange as a reward and an estimate for new shower and shower pump,  |
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Aug 10, 2020 19:29:28 GMT
The shower pump wasn’t working. The plumber who put the new shower in has ‘scarpered’. It was apparently working but now not.
There’s no head, the house is a shithole but she’s a nice lady.
I’d like to try to help her but don’t want to spend a day for a cup of tea & fondant fancy!
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Post by battle1066 on Aug 10, 2020 20:02:24 GMT
From your description you have two problems
firstly the 20 year d pump has a fault mechanical or electrical
secondly your temporary pump could be being starved of water from the supplying point. When you removed the original pump did both the cold and hot water run freely into a bucket as the source strainers could be blocked pre connection to the pump?
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Aug 10, 2020 20:36:44 GMT
From your description you have two problems firstly the 20 year d pump has a fault mechanical or electrical secondly your temporary pump could be being starved of water from the supplying point. When you removed the original pump did both the cold and hot water run freely into a bucket as the source strainers could be blocked pre connection to the pump? Yes they both ran in the bucket & with decent force, not a trickle. I took the shower off but nothing Dry as a bone. Also, this was strange to me, the shower pump that has lasted 20 years was sitting on some pipe clips!  ... I reckon someone else has been before me. I can’t be certain. It’s so hot down here I can’t concentrate for long especially when the old dear is telling me this & that! |
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Post by battle1066 on Aug 10, 2020 20:45:48 GMT
What I've had to do before when the pipework is badly routed with too many bends is purge the air out with a Hoselock Y piece.
Just connect both pipes which the pump discharges to onto the cold mains via the Y piece and put the shower on fully cold then fully hot and that should get it purged.
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Aug 10, 2020 20:52:27 GMT
What I've had to do before when the pipework is badly routed with too many bends is purge the air out with a Hoselock Y piece. Just connect both pipes which the pump discharges to onto the cold mains via the Y piece and put the shower on fully cold then fully hot and that should get it purged. Ok cheers |
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Post by hmv4u on Aug 11, 2020 18:29:21 GMT
not being a plumber i probably have this wrong but if i install a new shower bar sometimes after a few months the pump starts struggling to kick in eventually not kicking in at all,i find the usual culprits are the none return valves in the bar are sticking-removing them cures the problem.As i understand it the pump sensor needs to see a drop in pressure to kick the pump in and if the none returns are stuck theres no drop in pressure so no pump. H
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Post by DIYDafty on Aug 11, 2020 18:37:33 GMT
Rocky you made me laugh about the cup of tea and fondant fancy!
YOu're obviously more experienced than me so I can't help directly but what I will say is I have two showers both with pumps. One of them I installed myself and routed the pipework to the letter of the instructions.
The one I didn't do (polish "plumbers"), suffers hugely with air lock problems. They seem very sensative to air bubbles and of course when water heats up it releases air. I've never had a total airlock on the shower but it often dribbles out for several minutes until the air moves out.
Just putting it out there, but would it be a stupid idea to blast some mains hose water from the shower head side ?
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