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Post by cylinderfella on Aug 11, 2020 22:09:22 GMT
Very annoying!
I spent today in a valley.......
Not sight seeing.
A lead valley on my roof..
Was cracked and dripping for god knows how long. Fixed now. Hairline crack.. The worst type.
Have a good trip.
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Post by crowsfoot on Aug 12, 2020 7:39:34 GMT
When I threw it out of the door, I only had to wait half an hour when a scrappy knocked on the door, he was like a tramp on a kipper, just out of interest Dick, where did my logic go wrong ?  Look at it this way, 16 years without a yearly service say £60.00/service x 16years = £960.00. You're still in profit even after deducting the price of that new boiler from it  . Had you got it going it more than likely would have let you down again - it had reached the "End of the Road" I reckon. Have a good time in the Lake District (With a name like that strange it's not noted for the fishing though). Hope you can find somewhere to park!!! |
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Post by crowsfoot on Aug 12, 2020 7:56:40 GMT
Very annoying! I spent today in a valley....... Not sight seeing. A lead valley on my roof.. Was cracked and dripping for god knows how long. Fixed now. Hairline crack.. The worst type. Have a good trip.  "Plumbers solder" repair job Cinders or did you use "flashband" (can you still buy that stuff)? |
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Post by dickpuller on Aug 12, 2020 10:46:54 GMT
When I threw it out of the door, I only had to wait half an hour when a scrappy knocked on the door, he was like a tramp on a kipper, just out of interest Dick, where did my logic go wrong ?  Air Pressure switch would’ve been one of the things to check Tom. Ventura’s also maybe manky. Also high temp cut-outs, proving switch 👍 |
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Post by cylinderfella on Aug 13, 2020 19:34:29 GMT
Very annoying! I spent today in a valley....... Not sight seeing. A lead valley on my roof.. Was cracked and dripping for god knows how long. Fixed now. Hairline crack.. The worst type. Have a good trip. "Plumbers solder" repair job Cinders or did you use "flashband" (can you still buy that stuff)? Did it the awkward way Tappy, removed tiles, cut out 2 ft long piece of bad lead and replaced it with scrap piece I had which looked fine. Suppose I could've siliconed the cracks but when I removed the old lead, more cracks were starting under the tiles!! Is flashband the lead replacement stuff or an old patchwork type of thing? |
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Post by crowsfoot on Aug 14, 2020 7:40:41 GMT
A good job done then Cinders -
"Flashband" is/was a foil bitumen backed roll in the early days it was a silver tin foil, it then took on a more gray colour in order to look more like lead.
You just stuck it on top of the old lead - it was normally primed first with a special black primer coat.
Many years ago we had the regular job of repairing the cracked lead in a parapet gutter at a local flour mill.
It was a good steady job on top of that roof that I always enjoyed.
Then one day as we was preparing to enter the roof through the trap hatch a suit collared us "I hope your not going to light that nlow lamp up there - those flour residues are high explosive" he said. My mate replied sarcasticly "how do you think we are going to solder up the lead without lighting it then"?
We still went up there and did our solder patching admiring the view from the top of the building as normal, however, it was the last time we ever did....that suit was an early health and safety officer!!!!
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Post by tomplum on Aug 14, 2020 14:41:44 GMT
we think alike Dick, after purchasing the board it accrued to me that the high temp stat might be at fault, so i linked it out, but no joy , I never looked at the APS because, that needs the fan to be running before it can be proven or not,They get juice together from the same terminal on the board, In a last chace saloon in case of a therastat or micro switch, I short cutted each one hoping that would give me an indication but no joy, the was the straw that broke the camels back, It received its notice to quit and when it refused to sign, It got kicked out,  |
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Post by dickpuller on Aug 14, 2020 19:40:09 GMT
If the three terminals(Common, Normally Closed & Normally Open) on the Air Pressure Switch are connected to the PCB, the PCB will check that C & NC are made before starting the Fan. With a faulty APS, the fan will not run. With the fan running & a clear flue, C & NO ‘make’ & the boiler goes onto the next firing sequence.
Atmospheric gas boilers with top end problems are generally fan problems, fans can be running too fast or too slow.
Regardless of the fault Tom, I think you did the right thing in replacing it. Once one thing goes on a boiler, more faults will follow.
Aye & in the middle of Winter!!!
The Main Eco Compact has got a good reputation & is a cracking boiler, certainly good value👍👍👍👍
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Post by tomplum on Aug 14, 2020 19:46:37 GMT
I agree Dick, Thanks for the added information, It might help someone in a similar situation,  |
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Post by dickpuller on Aug 16, 2020 5:35:42 GMT
I agree Dick, Thanks for the added information, It might help someone in a similar situation,  Totally agree Tom👍 Repairing boilers is a skill that you learn on manufacturers courses, lots of courses! But mainly learned from an awful, awful lot of experience. I’m 44 years in the Trade, been on I’d say 20-30 different courses & every single course you learn something new. YouTube is a wonderful media for learning, but nothing beats personal experience..........Never ever forget, every day is a Skool day for us all👍👍👍 |
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Post by tomplum on Aug 19, 2020 19:18:17 GMT
Because everything was dome in a rush last week, I just connected to condensate to a bowl for the time being and since then I have been contemplating where best to run it permanently, Of course I know the regs being , a plastic pipe running downhill inside to the nearest waste and trapped, that would be easy in my case BUT, I've long believed that, those rules are for fools and, seeing as i'm now off the radar, so to speak, I decided to go fully against all the rules, Its going to be copper, because THEY say it will eat through it, then its going to go through the wall in 22mm copper, then run down the wall in 35mm plastic, because 22mm copper will freeze more easily, so I'm using plastic to avoid freezing BUT, it will not go to a drain, it will discharge on my flags outside, which they say, will get eaten away, Then we will monitor how much gets eaten away and possibly adjust if that happens, tomplums long term experiment on boiler acid attack,  |
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Post by tomplum on Aug 21, 2020 19:48:28 GMT
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Post by cylinderfella on Aug 21, 2020 19:55:06 GMT
Is that just a mould stain Tom?
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Post by tomplum on Aug 21, 2020 20:25:19 GMT
dunno, I think it might be a glue stain, a bit of solvent weld, anyway its defo not a acid attack, |
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"Plumbers solder" repair job Cinders or did you use "flashband" (can you still buy that stuff)?
