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Post by battle1066 on May 4, 2016 17:24:51 GMT
Evening Members - had a chew on a job today and wonder how the more experienced plumber solves the problem to a DIYer. All pipework and fittings are solvent weld.
Problem snapped 1 1/2 pipe right on the end of the 1 1/2 tee which continues on to the soil pipe via welded boss. Now the branch has the basin waste water at 1 1/4 and the other end of the tee has the shower waste water at 1 1/2 pipe.
Now this is external pipework and has no excess length so the pipe runs are short and no length to flex the pipework into the new Tee. Meaning the branch is a fixed point and one end of the tee is fixed at the shower the other end of the tee could be pushed further into the soil pipe.
Now if the 1 1/2 pipe couplings were slip couplings it would be easier but they come fixed with an internal stop. Now there's no chance of getting the snapped piece of 1 1/2 pipe out of the original tee or is there? So how do trained people do it!
My approach was to ream out the two new 1 1/2 couplings so they could slip up and down the existing pipework removing the need to force any of the existing pipework but meant all the measurement had to be prefabricated then position the couplers to the mid way position and paste with solvent and water test. The result was a tidy visually and water tight job but I lost a day for a job what was priced at fraction of that cost. Now losing money isn't the worry it was the time and making fittings which aren't sold or so I was told so how do you do it?
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Post by dcoxplumbing on May 4, 2016 17:39:16 GMT
I've done the same in the past and used a half round file to take out the stop of coupling to allow them to slip but I would have struggled to overcome the broken piece of pipe left in the tee. I think I would have had to cut the 1 1/2 either side of the tee outside and replace the 1 1/4 through the wall and the tee with with it. Can take a while!
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Post by tomplum on May 4, 2016 19:04:47 GMT
that's pretty much how a plumber would do it, solvent weld in confined spaces is a nightmare, with all the ends fixed there's no there way but use slip couplings, I usually make a long socket using my blowtorch and heating the pipe and forming a socket, i made a video about forming sockets with pipe and my blowtorch, A plumber always finds a way,,One of my sayings is,," plumbings not like football, a plumber always wins"
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Post by battle1066 on May 4, 2016 19:18:37 GMT
that's pretty much how a plumber would do it, solvent weld in confined spaces is a nightmare, with all the ends fixed there's no there way but use slip couplings, I usually make a long socket using my blowtorch and heating the pipe and forming a socket, i made a video about forming sockets with pipe and my blowtorch, A plumber always finds a way,,One of my sayings is,," plumbings not like football, a plumber always wins" How long would you of given yourself for that job?
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Post by tomplum on May 4, 2016 19:24:18 GMT
about an hour maby two, I always go prepared with stuff and think the job through beforehand, If i come across something I've not planned for, I go away and regroup make a battle plan then reattack, The jobs about getting it straight in your head first, well thats what i do, others might disagree, r_YU1yvrdxzyzo1stXVb diy
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Post by battle1066 on May 4, 2016 19:31:38 GMT
about an hour maby two, I always go prepared with stuff and think the job through beforehand, If i come across something I've not planned for, I go away and regroup make a battle plan then reattack, The jobs about getting it straight in your head first, well thats what i do, others might disagree, r_YU1yvrdxzyzo1stXVb diy Typically I follow that tack myself (as you've quoted above) but I do find I'm still learning. At one stage I thought the brickwork was going to have to come out but there was just enough green on the job to do it. qwerty
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Post by battle1066 on May 4, 2016 19:37:05 GMT
I have watched your solvent video on forming sockets Tom (always educational) but I'm still waiting for the one on how you mark your pipework up and realign them cause the solvent goes off so quick the fuckers dry and pointing it to space!
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Post by tomplum on May 4, 2016 19:43:49 GMT
oh I forgot abut that, I'll get on it soon, its a good suggestion that,
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