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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 18, 2023 9:46:30 GMT
I liked that small cylinder because it created more room in the airing cupboard and these days our average customers use much less stored hot water than they did say 15/20 years ago - for me that smaller cylinder gets the thumbs up. I'd not really noticed those other points that you mention (I'll have to have another look  )! I had to have a bit of a chuckle myself though at his original plan to drill those joists with an incline and then thread the new 22mm pressure release pipe through them  ! |
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 18, 2023 10:32:52 GMT
Just watched the video again and it's the normal to me to connect the EV up to the mains via that combination valve (although it's normally a flexi pipe you'd get to connect it up with).
A fantastic bit of innovative thinking there Dick in connecting the drain off into the D2 pipe and I'm 100% with you on it.
However, I'm sure that the water regulations boffins wouldn't approve of the idea!
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Post by DIYDafty on Mar 19, 2023 15:12:29 GMT
I'm gonna watch it this evening and see how many of Dick's comments I understand. I have seen some of his other videos and I do like how he's chosen not to be gassafe yet even though he's clearly got the brains for it. He gets pissed off if things are a bit awkward which is always relaxing to watch when its someone else....  Seriously though it makes him come across as more human.... |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 19, 2023 17:18:43 GMT
Sorry CF, for the first time, I got something wrong. I thought Mark had taken the EV off the Balanced CW supply in the Filling Group.
How can I spare my blushes??
He was however, at pains, to fit a lever valve on the HW draw off. Which I think is very poor practice, unless there’s an Anti-Vac valve on the UVC. There’s a possibility of some clown imploding the cylinder!!
The cylinder drain into the D2 is common practice here in Jockoland CF.
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 20, 2023 10:14:16 GMT
I can't really see any point in fitting that valve on the h/w distribution pipe either, especially as you already have one on the mains which does the same job in the same cupboard.
A retiree plumber told me last year when I retired that we served a 50 year time span generation of plumbing and whatever comes along next will not be for our generation to ever learn.
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 20, 2023 12:54:28 GMT
I can't really see any point in fitting that valve on the h/w distribution pipe either, especially as you already have one on the mains which does the same job in the same cupboard. A retiree plumber told me last year when I retired that we served a 50 year time span generation of plumbing and whatever comes along next will not be for our generation to ever learn. Sorry CF, but I can’t agree. The innovations & developments of the past & future are too great!! My career & interest in this wonderful Trade will never stop. Every single day will be a Skool Day for me, until my brain or body gives up. I’m doing my ACS Gas refresher in a couple of months & considering doing my F Gas training also. I’ll always be keeping the Pups of the trade in order, if not on-site, on-Line!! |
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Post by DIYDafty on Mar 20, 2023 18:20:21 GMT
I can't really see any point in fitting that valve on the h/w distribution pipe either, especially as you already have one on the mains which does the same job in the same cupboard. A retiree plumber told me last year when I retired that we served a 50 year time span generation of plumbing and whatever comes along next will not be for our generation to ever learn. Sorry CF, but I can’t agree. The innovations & developments of the past & future are too great!! My career & interest in this wonderful Trade will never stop. Every single day will be a Skool Day for me, until my brain or body gives up. I’m doing my ACS Gas refresher in a couple of months & considering doing my F Gas training also. I’ll always be keeping the Pups of the trade in order, if not on-site, on-Line!! Oh bloody hell - look forward to be told how a single spillage will cause the earth to heat up 10 degrees..... Talking about gassafe, have I got it right that bloke in the youtube vid needed to have the right ticket to fit unvented cylanders? So you can be "unvented safe" without doing thre gasw part? |
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Post by dickpuller on Mar 21, 2023 7:30:25 GMT
Not from me Dafty, I’m no tree hugger. In fact, there’s a concerted scientific opinion that our Planet is 3°C cooler than 1500 years ago.
I do love my environment, how could you not? You look at our wonderful Planet, watch the seasons come & go. The beauty & light of our landscapes here in the UK, can be breathtaking. Drive through Glencoe when there’s snow on the ground, it’s so beautiful, the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!!...Or the shear beauty of a scene in the Cotswolds, a cottage & a field, stunning!!
Why would you not want to preserve these things?
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Post by crowsfoot on Mar 21, 2023 11:21:02 GMT
Don't get me wrong Dick all this new technology I have found to be very interesting and getting my head around it so that it makes sense to me as been very enjoyable, however, it is not the plumbing that I learned as an apprentice and at collage. Getting tickets and getting yourself job registered to do a job every 3 years that we had been doing safely for the last 30 years is not really of our 50 years in the trade time. As is downloading apps to control heating, having water tested for legionella disease, asbestos awareness training, water hygiene, attending all manner of courses all these are the kind of things that I'm saying are not of our 50 year generation span but will be in the next 50 year generation span along with new plumbing developments that haven't happened yet. My last apprentice would often say to me with a puzzled look on his face "I've turned the cold water off but the hot waters still running" to which I'd reply "it'll be an heat only boiler" which not once cleared the puzzled look on his face (then again he was a bit thick on the practical side). I could also say the generation that preceded us say 1910 - 1960s were very different plumbers to us, heavy cast iron soil pipes up ladders, walking carrying rolls of heavy lead around their necks, carrying 2cwt cast iron baths on their backs upstairs, wiping lead joints with a moleskin cloth, Bossing up lead rolls and corners, sure some of these things crossed over into our generation and we learned how to do it but I'd say that we wasn't as comfortable with these things as these past masters were... Am I making my point that "we are products of a certain plumbing generation in time" any clearer or digging myself a deeper hole? DD, you can be unvented reg' without being gas-safe reg. Not sure if it works the other way round though. |
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Seriously though it makes him come across as more human....
