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Post by DIYDafty on Jan 4, 2019 0:34:31 GMT
Hello All
I had an idea to post up one DIYers attempt at a new bathroom. If anyone cares I'll update this thread every now and again.
The room is small. Around 2.6Mx1M. Originally it was just a linkway from the house to a room above the garage so it had no service pipes. I've since routed hot and cold 22mm pipes in the ceiling for a new shower and also 22mm pipes under the floorboards for new WC and sink. I've also added new 32mm, 40mm, 50mm and 110mm waste pipes.
To add to the fun, the 1M wide wall is a stud wall but external and there is a roof above it. That was leaking for some years which resulted in some of the studs and the double joist at the bottom rotting through. I've now replaced with new wood and fitted a geberit framed cistern partly in the wall and partly in front. I've also fixed the leak in the roof.
Today, I finally got the cistern frame plumbed in so a mini milestone that prompted me to share. I'm definitely not proud of the waste pipe arrangement but boxed off it hopefully won't be that bad? To have had the soil pipe come through the wall where I'd ideally want it would have meant new soil stack and re-route of drains which is well above my pay grade to do.
Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped me with one question or another over the past few weeks !
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Post by clart on Jan 4, 2019 0:36:49 GMT
Could you not of moved that soil pipe?
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Post by DIYDafty on Jan 4, 2019 0:50:44 GMT
Could you not of moved that soil pipe? On the other side of that wall is the existing bathroom with existing WC feeding into the stack at the same level so I don't know how I would have done it? I looked at other bathrooms and see a lot of boxing in etc so hoping that a box off the floor won't be that bad? Edit: I did think about a pair of 90s instead of the 45s but I wasn't sure I'd fit them in and I'd still need to box. I dunno. I'm a bit pissed off now. |
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Post by jcplumb on Jan 4, 2019 2:55:39 GMT
The soil pipe's fine, 45's are much better than 90's and will tend to allow the waste to flow better so less chance of blocking.
That's a great job considering you're not a plumber, well done!
One thing I did spot though, and it'll probably be fine as it is but..
That flexi, I would like to see copper there instead, but I do use flexis as sometimes you have to, also some fill valves won't take a copper tap connector and will only take a flexi, especially side entry plastic shanks. However, that flexi in the picture is not wras approved and if you're boxing it into a cavity then it'd be worth using a wras one.
Not because of regs (which do state only wras approved everything) but because the wras ones are always good quality and I'd feel more comfortable hiding a known good quality flexi in boxing than a toolstation budget flexi.
I use the cheapo £1.25 flexi tap conns from toolstation, just wouldn't box one in though.
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Post by clart on Jan 4, 2019 6:09:44 GMT
Could you of got it under the floor?
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Post by crowsfoot on Jan 4, 2019 7:06:17 GMT
Looks good DD. I can see that there's a lot of hard work gone into it. I like the way you've marked the angles in marker pen on the soil pipe so you can easily line them up at the correct angle. Having said that I wouldn't want to be the plumber who gets the job of fixing a faulty flush on it in 10 years time! Does it flush from your phone with a relevant blue tooth app?  |
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Post by crowsfoot on Jan 4, 2019 7:11:45 GMT
Only joking there DD!
But who knows what the future holds in plumbing? |
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Post by tomplum on Jan 4, 2019 9:32:25 GMT
well done dafty, this is a great project and thanks for posting, It takes great courage for a diy dafty to post on a plumbers forum and show his work, I think you are doing a splendid job,  ps, is that a glass of beer I see on one of the pics beer drinker |
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Post by woodbine66 on Jan 4, 2019 16:16:20 GMT
Great job, DD. You missed your vocation in life.
Also spotted the crafty one on the top right of the 3rd pic down. Shandy?
Looks like you've earned it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 19:33:14 GMT
Great job dafty it looks good mate !  |
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Post by battle1066 on Jan 4, 2019 21:53:15 GMT
Wow DD that's some strong job and no expense spared, but why no isolator on the felxi?
I feel you've done right by documenting the job as you've done, as age related memory loss could well have you looking back as to how did I build that, if or when repairs need done.
Be interesting to know how quick you feel you could do another in the adjacent room if you were doing it as a priced job?
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Post by DIYDafty on Jan 4, 2019 23:20:39 GMT
Thanks so much all for the words of encouragement and constructive feedback ! I used a flexi based on kind feedback in a previous thread. tomplum.boards.net/thread/4201/flexi-tap-connectors I bought the most expensive one at screwfix but I didn't know about using a wras approved one. - good tip for the future. I didn't get one with an isolator because there is once accessible just inside the cistern and you can get to it from the front. For the few pence involved maybe I should have got one anyway. The soil pipe would have been a lot better to have come out the floor at the back but the stack that its joined to has another WC at that level and just below that it has a bath going in. If I had my time again maybe I should have ripped up more boxing in made up rooms to get at the stack but its going through a cavity wall as is and I dunno I would have found that very hard. As far as I know, most/all houses and extension are designed from scratch to have the stacks in the right places and this was an addon. Obviously most of the pipe will be covered by tiles but what isn't will be a little box/shelf just to annoy me when its all done. Very glad to hear the comments about 45 offsets being better (from a drainage point of view) than two 90s. I thought that might be a small advantage so great to hear that. "No PB" definitely not referring to the esteemed water/gas engineer who helps administrator this board! It was a little note to me to not use it to fix any plasterboard because its a couple of mil shy of being flush with the existing stud. Definitely a beer not a shandy taken at the end of the day! Last thing, being a dafty, I decided to dismantle some of it because I got worried about the supplied wood screws - just two of them at the top. I think they are mainly for masonry. So I fixed carriage bolts instead and while I was there ironed out a couple of wrinkles to get it all pretty much dead level and plumb. |
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Post by tomplum on Jan 4, 2019 23:27:05 GMT
nice to know we are helping dafty,  |
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Post by DIYDafty on Feb 17, 2019 23:02:04 GMT
Thought I'd post an update with some pics. So the wall hung WC has now been plasterboarded around and I've also plastered the walls and window surround above. Also skimmed the celing. Nowhere near the quality of finish of a proper spread but I'm getting better at it. Also tanked and tiled around the shower. I should have posted up a pic but at the time of my last post only the shower tray was in situ with plasterboard walls. Tanking is a funny thing and I wonder if its a recent invention? But for the material cost of £35 I thought I should do it. Suspect most of the cost in a proper commercial installation is the labour. I also tested my shower pump/mixer for the first time a few days ago. Boy was that one high point for the project so far. I haven't done any technical flow tests but when I switched it on it absolutely pissed it out ! All I have to compare is a techflow qt 2.3bar pump that pumps water into the shower in the next room. That suffers from airlocks, and is definitely nowhere near the power of this new pump and it is pulling water from the tank a lot further away. I like to think using a pipe bender for almost every bend, no ups and downs and copper at 22mm helped but possibly the pump is better/stronger too I'm not sure. Either way I've never seen so much water pour out of a 15mm pipe ! Other interesting thing is I follwed Mira's instructions to a T and they didn't specfiy a flange on the hw cylinder. They said to have an arrangement you can see in image384 with the downwards t. I suppose a quick test is very early days but I'm quietly very hopeful from what I've seen so far ! www.dropbox.com/sh/x302lrkwnu594w8/AACwQ86FQs9CzB71mRdiB-TKa?dl=0 |
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