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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 20:12:57 GMT
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Post by tomplum on Feb 17, 2020 21:26:50 GMT
I'm with you PB, john guest and hep20 only, I won't use the cheaper stuff, I feel guilty using plastics anyway, i feel I'm cheating but, its become all too common,  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 21:48:37 GMT
I'm with you PB, john guest and hep20 only, I won't use the cheaper stuff, I feel guilty using plastics anyway, i feel I'm cheating but, its become all too common, It's all you see in new builds now Tom but most of it is neither of our preferred. There's some right weird shite being used now that is 16mm, that will catch some folk out later on  |
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Post by DIYDafty on Feb 17, 2020 22:25:20 GMT
Out of interest is it all clipped up nicely under the floorboards or just left lying lose along with the electric cables? My house was built in 1970 , the plumbing is copper but its just been thrown into the void - not a single clip or even nail holding anything up. Result? Lots of banging esp that the house is next to a main road so vibrates when trucks go past but the copper pipes makes it 100 times worse. I guess plastic wouldn't make much noise until the seals give way and the ceiling comes down....  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 22:35:13 GMT
Out of interest is it all clipped up nicely under the floorboards or just left lying lose along with the electric cables? My house was built in 1970 , the plumbing is copper but its just been thrown into the void - not a single clip or even nail holding anything up. Result? Lots of banging esp that the house is next to a main road so vibrates when trucks go past but the copper pipes makes it 100 times worse. I guess plastic wouldn't make much noise until the seals give way and the ceiling comes down.... Clip wise really depends on the installer Dafty. Some people work with a passion for a good job and some just don't give a toss. |
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Post by DIYDafty on Feb 17, 2020 23:51:56 GMT
Out of interest is it all clipped up nicely under the floorboards or just left lying lose along with the electric cables? My house was built in 1970 , the plumbing is copper but its just been thrown into the void - not a single clip or even nail holding anything up. Result? Lots of banging esp that the house is next to a main road so vibrates when trucks go past but the copper pipes makes it 100 times worse. I guess plastic wouldn't make much noise until the seals give way and the ceiling comes down.... Clip wise really depends on the installer Dafty. Some people work with a passion for a good job and some just don't give a toss. Makes me think people should know what a good job looks like. I can see why some wouldn't care - why should they if the guy paying doesn't care either? |
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Post by woodbine66 on Feb 18, 2020 13:05:24 GMT
Out of interest is it all clipped up nicely under the floorboards or just left lying lose along with the electric cables? My house was built in 1970 , the plumbing is copper but its just been thrown into the void - not a single clip or even nail holding anything up. Result? Lots of banging esp that the house is next to a main road so vibrates when trucks go past but the copper pipes makes it 100 times worse. I guess plastic wouldn't make much noise until the seals give way and the ceiling comes down....
Same with my place, Dafty. Built in 1961. Must have been before they invented pipe clips, or more likely, they were too tight to buy some. Their idea of clipping pipes in the notched joist was bending a nail over from each side of the pipe in a few places. Hence the pipes did used to bang in the unclipped runs where they couldn't be bothered. Lifted most of the floors over the years and put proper clips in. In fairness, the water in the pipes was only under gravity - the banging only really started when I converted everything to mains pressure. Something the pipes weren't designed to cope with when installed all those years ago. On the whole they did a good job that stood the test of time.
Can't knock ye olde plumbers though. Was a really tough job in those days - especially fitting cast iron stacks that must have weighed a ton and bending and fitting large bore copper pipe for the wastes. Then having to lead all the stack/soil joints. A lot of the internal pipes are original plus the old CI stack - and it's all working 60 years on. Let's see if the plastic crap lasts half as long. 
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Post by cylinderfella on Feb 18, 2020 21:45:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 21:51:20 GMT
Nightmare Cinder's this plumbing lark  |
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Post by cylinderfella on Feb 18, 2020 21:55:04 GMT
Stop inventing shit!! It all works already,
That shit is expensive and it's just a bit more bendy............that's it!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 22:02:59 GMT
Stop inventing shit!! It all works already, That shit is expensive and it's just a bit more bendy............that's it!! Pricks will always buy it and tell us how great it is........wankers |
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Post by cylinderfella on Feb 18, 2020 22:09:04 GMT
Yeah, lazy pricks who can't bend copper, or solder or do anything other than scratch their arses and charge a fortune!! The future's bright for leaks, I mean plumbing!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2020 22:12:59 GMT
Yeah, lazy pricks who can't bend copper, or solder or do anything other than scratch their arses and charge a fortune!! The future's bright for leaks, I mean plumbing!! The skills are slowly disappearing Cinder's, there's some right knob heads in the industry now. |
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Post by cylinderfella on Feb 18, 2020 22:24:02 GMT
The skills are getting replaced by stuff like that 16mm barrier pipe and yet again bits of rubber washers within the components, which, in the end will be drippy.
It's all about cash in the end. Replace working parts with dodgy unreliable stuff and then parts need to be replaced every so often.
If stuff lasts too long, it makes no money for suppliers of couplers, reducers and all those small parts.
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Shillbuilder did a YouTube's on pipelife
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