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Post by dickpuller on Dec 2, 2020 7:56:33 GMT
Some good radiator prices down Toolstation.
Particularly in double panels. So do yourself a favour & get down there!!
Just a wee point about radiators & condensing boilers;
Save yourself a few quid on your Gas Bill & double up the size of your radiators. A bigger radiator running at a lower temperature will make your condensing boiler much more efficient.
Also, if you have a condensing boiler & hive or nest(or many other controls). Ensure it’s wired on Open Therm OT. That will modulate the boiler more & save you money👍👍👍
HTH
Regards Tight Jock!!
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Post by crowsfoot on Dec 2, 2020 9:30:57 GMT
Changing thoughts on running your boiler more economically?
Just over ten years ago I was told the new thinking was to always run the boiler at max temp in order to get the system up to temperature as fast as possible therefore handing control of the system over to the secondary heating controls as soon as possible?
There's been so many different ideas on reducing heating costs over the years that I've been in the trade and the conclusion I've arrived at is that the more you have the heating on the more money it will cost you and that secondary controls are a complete waste of money if you cannot afford to heat your house to the recomended heating temparatures in the first place - in other words you have to be able to afford to spend it in order to save it.
Is this making sense?
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 2, 2020 13:14:27 GMT
Changing thoughts on running your boiler more economically? Just over ten years ago I was told the new thinking was to always run the boiler at max temp in order to get the system up to temperature as fast as possible therefore handing control of the system over to the secondary heating controls as soon as possible? There's been so many different ideas on reducing heating costs over the years that I've been in the trade and the conclusion I've arrived at is that the more you have the heating on the more money it will cost you and that secondary controls are a complete waste of money if you cannot afford to heat your house to the recomended heating temparatures in the first place - in other words you have to be able to afford to spend it in order to save it. Is this making sense? Yup, I see what you’re saying CF👍👍 The problem is, the Snowflake generation. Not for them waking up in the morning with more frost inside, the windows, than outside!!! Oh no, these spoilt brats MUST have central heating!! So to elevate their pain & suffering, the powers that be, are trying to heat their homes with a squirrel’s fart. So, what has become apparent; ‘Amazon & Lilly’(two rug munching black lesbians, we can’t ignore the minorities!!) had a Nest fitted for 60 quid, but their ‘know it all’ Spark hasn’t a fucking clue about CH & just wired it as an ON/OFF control. Where the two check shirt, DM’s wearing ‘girls’, have a Combi that should’ve been wired Open Therm OT. That’ll save them a few quid. So with minor alteration the boiler will perform 100 times better. If anyone wants more details & to learn more about improving your controls, post your address on a £100 note to Puller Towers & I’ll reply to you if I can be arsed. |
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Post by tomplum on Dec 2, 2020 16:52:53 GMT
they make a £100 now ? jeepers,,,  |
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Post by DIYDafty on Dec 2, 2020 18:13:30 GMT
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Post by crowsfoot on Dec 2, 2020 19:00:44 GMT
You're right dd the tides now coming in for the whole acs set up and it won't be a job for life for the newly qualified.
Air Source and Ground Source are a "poor quality" heat source and need to be running for longer periods of time in order to reach specified home heat comfort levels.
Poor people don't want this because they can't afford to heat their homes to the specified heating comfort levels - all they want is something to get a quick warm off for 15 mins in the winter when they feel cold.
The government can't understand that some people simply can't afford to run an air source unit for 14hrs/day in the depth of a cold plunge even though it works out cheaper in the long run than a gas boiler would.
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 2, 2020 19:05:01 GMT
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 2, 2020 19:11:56 GMT
You're right dd the tides now coming in for the whole acs set up and it won't be a job for life for the newly qualified. Air Source and Ground Source are a "poor quality" heat source and need to be running for longer periods of time in order to reach specified home heat comfort levels. Poor people don't want this because they can't afford to heat their homes to the specified heating comfort levels - all they want is something to get a quick warm off for 15 mins in the winter when they feel cold. The government can't understand that some people simply can't afford to run an air source unit for 14hrs/day in the depth of a cold plunge even though it works out cheaper in the long run than a gas boiler would. Yup CF, Heat Pumps are farting at thunder with our poorly insulated homes in the UK. Hydrogen is the next move, our existing plastic natural gas network can cope with hydrogen or a Nat gas/hydrogen mix. Happy days! |
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 2, 2020 19:14:39 GMT
Dry your eyes Dafty son, let me know what controls etc you’ve got or propose to fit & i’ll Give you my expert opinion FOC!!
now, you can’t get cheaper than that, because I know you’re a right tight cunt😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by crowsfoot on Dec 2, 2020 19:29:08 GMT
Hydrogen is extremely expensive to produce would the government be prepaired to subsidise it's manufacture and conversion?
The old towngas was a manufactured gas and the conversion to northsea was subsidised because the northsea gas was plentiful and cheap (although I don't recall any huge drop in the price of northhsea gas after the conversion?)
Looks like we're back to having to put our hands in our pockets again should you want to be toasty warm in a cold cold winter!
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Post by battle1066 on Dec 2, 2020 21:16:05 GMT
You're right dd the tides now coming in for the whole acs set up and it won't be a job for life for the newly qualified. Air Source and Ground Source are a "poor quality" heat source and need to be running for longer periods of time in order to reach specified home heat comfort levels. Poor people don't want this because they can't afford to heat their homes to the specified heating comfort levels - all they want is something to get a quick warm off for 15 mins in the winter when they feel cold. The government can't understand that some people simply can't afford to run an air source unit for 14hrs/day in the depth of a cold plunge even though it works out cheaper in the long run than a gas boiler would. Yup CF, Heat Pumps are farting at thunder with our poorly insulated homes in the UK. Hydrogen is the next move, our existing plastic natural gas network can cope with hydrogen or a Nat gas/hydrogen mix. Happy days! As normal up North is the testing ground and we currently have hydrogen transport centre. www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18757094.teesside-clean-energy-leader-home-uks-first-hydrogen-transport-centre/ |
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Post by woodbine66 on Dec 3, 2020 0:19:56 GMT
I stayed in a cottage with ground source heating. Wasn't that effective and bloody noisy. Had to switch it off at night to get to sleep.
Also I'm taking applications for my new company 'Hydrosafe'. Please send a cheque for £4000 to me which will cover your lessons, test and ID card complete with mugshot. This time next year, I'll be a millionaire!
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Post by dickpuller on Dec 3, 2020 7:28:55 GMT
Still huge Coal reserves under our feet here in Jockoland & many other parts of the UK, we could return to Coal Gas.
There’s been some studies of dumping the Carbon back underground. it’s just the tree huggers that don’t like fossil fuels.
They’re working on schemes to use Solar & Hydro Power to produce Hydrogen. Hydrogen is great, it’s dangerous, but a M3 of hydrogen has 4 times the Calorific value of Natural Gas.
I’m going to need further training, a half day maybe? I’ll need to up my prices, £150/hr is not unreasonable when it’s that dangerous.
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Dec 3, 2020 7:41:31 GMT
What about the millions of boilers in situ? They still need service & repair. |
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Post by crowsfoot on Dec 3, 2020 9:25:26 GMT
Whatever is fitted as a re-placement will always need service and repair personel.
"Air Source" and "Ground Source units" were supposed to be "fit and forget" technologies,however, so far they are proving to be a long way from that original statement!
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