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Post by joinerjohn on Oct 4, 2022 0:03:57 GMT
Quick one lads. Do the 2016 gas regulations apply retrospectively to properties built before 2016 ? Asking as my sister has had her gas meter capped off because its less than 150mm from the electric meter. Now she's looking for either an electric or gas meter to be moved ( literally 25mm ) so it complies with these regulations. Is this correct ? Is this bloody right ?
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Post by tomplum on Oct 4, 2022 15:14:51 GMT
I've never heard of that regulation JJ but, I'm no expert and my gassafe days ended in 2013 so they would not inform my anyways,
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Post by cathoderay on Oct 4, 2022 15:19:01 GMT
I don't think so but you should ask "gash shave" if that is correct.
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Post by crowsfoot on Oct 4, 2022 17:29:15 GMT
I ended my gasafe association much earlier than tom did after an argument with my then gaffer.
I do remember though that building regulations are not retrospective (so if was legal when the work was carried out then it stays legal) and I would say the same applies to the gas regs.
These newly trained course gas experts are a blooming menace and will cap off anything they don't understand. Someone I know had a new smart meter fitted and the young engineer who fitted it capped off every gas appliance in the property.
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Post by dickpuller on Oct 4, 2022 18:03:17 GMT
Yes, 150mm clearance from Gas Meter to Leccy Meter. Post up some photos JJ, the anaconda may be long enough to move the Gas Meter a little.
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Post by joinerjohn on Oct 4, 2022 19:12:00 GMT
Right then chaps. Sis has been in touch and took a photo. It’s actually the incoming mains cable which is too close to the gas meter. Here’s the photo she has taken. Personally I can’t see why the meter couldn’t just be swung 90 degrees towards the door or even say a bit of fire resistant plasterboard dabbed to the wall behind the meter ? ( the black cable behind the left hand side of the meter is the incoming leccy mains )
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Post by tomplum on Oct 4, 2022 19:59:00 GMT
In my area they are trying their upmost best to install Smart meters, this just might be another ploy for them to do that,
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Post by joinerjohn on Oct 4, 2022 20:25:16 GMT
I did wonder Tom, if that's what they are playing at. Been off ten days now.
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Post by tomplum on Oct 5, 2022 7:27:48 GMT
It seems a bit harsh to turn you off John, I think a letter to the person's boss is in order to find out if he's in his rights to turn your sisters off at worst It can only be, " not up to current standards", In my days as a gassafe plumber, You could only turn off " immediatly Dangerous" situations, So if he Deemed that as ID, half the houses in England are ID,
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Oct 5, 2022 16:38:50 GMT
Who capped the meter? I take it it’s still capped & thus no gas at the moment?
Did she have a problem or what happened?
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Oct 5, 2022 16:41:06 GMT
What part in the photo is the actual issue they are saying?
25mm - someone’s having a laugh & need a slap
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Post by rocketmanbkk on Oct 5, 2022 16:43:06 GMT
It seems a bit harsh to turn you off John, I think a letter to the person's boss is in order to find out if he's in his rights to turn your sisters off at worst It can only be, " not up to current standards", In my days as a gassafe plumber, You could only turn off " immediatly Dangerous" situations, So if he Deemed that as ID, half the houses in England are ID, I agree Tom Surely you’d tell the homeowner it’s not up to current regs & he pisses off I wonder if it was a new gas safe man and he’s going by the book it every way. Which isn’t wrong but very harsh.
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Post by joinerjohn on Oct 5, 2022 17:05:51 GMT
It was the chap who came to install a new log burner in their living room. He’s had to remove the old pipework where the gas fire was ( he is registered with gassafe) Looking at the photo, and reading the regs, I reckon if the gas meter was swung out a few inches, then a piece of fireboard rated plasterboard was dabbed to the wall, in front of the incoming cable and fire stopped top, bottom and sides, it could be deemed safe and complying with regs. 10 days ago he capped it off. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Post by dickpuller on Oct 6, 2022 6:28:23 GMT
BS 6891 I think it’s only 25mm from a Cable to a Gas Meter, but I’m not too sure??
It should not have been capped, it’s only At Risk & not Immediately Dangerous if the regs do say 150mm.
Regardless, it looks like there’s enough play on the anaconda to move the Meter over a bit.
Get a decent Gas Safe Plumber in to alter the supply pipe & move the Meter a bit. I’d charge minimum £80/hr + materials.
Consultants Fee invoice in the Post JJ👍👍
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Post by crowsfoot on Oct 6, 2022 10:21:33 GMT
A gassafe smart meter fitter once took it upon himself to turn the gas supply back on to an empty central heating boiler and try and relight it (with no water in it)! Only failing because the ignition wasn't in working order!!
Inspite of the home owner telling the gassafe plonker that the boiler was soon to be renewed and the system was having additional radiators added to it at this present time.
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