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Post by DIYDafty on May 10, 2023 16:52:26 GMT
Hello All I bought a "refurbished" fan for my Ideal RD1 3100 just over a year ago. Now its starting to make a quiet ticking sound "tick tick tick" about two every second. This time, if it fails, I'm thinking of replacing the bearings myself to save money and also so I don't need to wait for the new fan. So if I bought a pair of these, should they work? And does anyone know this boiler enough to know if I need new seals/rope/gaskets ? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334347566358 |
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Post by tomplum on May 10, 2023 18:14:19 GMT
I've never tried that dafty but, I have oiled the fan bearings and got extra mileage out of them ,,  |
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Post by battle1066 on May 10, 2023 18:30:26 GMT
Hello All I bought a "refurbished" fan for my Ideal RD1 3100 just over a year ago. Now its starting to make a quiet ticking sound "tick tick tick" about two every second. This time, if it fails, I'm thinking of replacing the bearings myself to save money and also so I don't need to wait for the new fan. So if I bought a pair of these, should they work? And does anyone know this boiler enough to know if I need new seals/rope/gaskets ? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334347566358I’ve not done your fan but I have done others and I’ve had mixed results changing the bearing. As for the rope seal I’ve replaced them (just cause I’ve got a roll) although they’ve looked in perfect condition. |
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Post by dickpuller on May 10, 2023 18:36:22 GMT
I’ve replaced Fan Bearings a few times Dafty. Not a problem👍👍
It’s always a good idea to replace any Seals you disturb.
Just ensure the Fan Motor Mountings are in good Nick or the fan will be unbalanced & will shit it’s pants very quickly.
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Post by battle1066 on May 10, 2023 19:20:28 GMT
Mind I’ve cured plenty noises from fans with a bit 5/30 fully synthetic engine oil, which I apply with a syringe and needle which gets right to the location without making awful mess.
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Post by DIYDafty on May 10, 2023 20:05:28 GMT
Mind I’ve cured plenty noises from fans with a bit 5/30 fully synthetic engine oil, which I apply with a syringe and needle which gets right to the location without making awful mess. You've still got to take the fan apart though to get to the bearings haven't you ? |
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Post by battle1066 on May 10, 2023 20:38:51 GMT
Mind I’ve cured plenty noises from fans with a bit 5/30 fully synthetic engine oil, which I apply with a syringe and needle which gets right to the location without making awful mess. You've still got to take the fan apart though to get to the bearings haven't you ? Not on all fans that’s where the needle comes into play. |
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Post by dickpuller on May 11, 2023 5:37:38 GMT
You've still got to take the fan apart though to get to the bearings haven't you ? Not on all fans that’s where the needle comes into play. If you have access in the appliance, the Fan can remain in place as battle has stated. Of course, it’s illegal to repair any Gas appliance if you’re not ‘competent’ to do so. You must be fully trained, qualified & GS Registered. The full FAGS testing in accordance with 26(9) must be carried out. Here John demonstrates the bearing replacement method, which any RGI Engineer can follow & thereafter test in accordance with 26(9). |
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Post by joinerjohn on May 11, 2023 11:51:55 GMT
Not on all fans that’s where the needle comes into play. If you have access in the appliance, the Fan can remain in place as battle has stated. Of course, it’s illegal to repair any Gas appliance if you’re not ‘competent’ to do so. You must be fully trained, qualified & GS Registered. The full FAGS testing in accordance with 26(9) must be carried out. Of course the word “ Competence” rears its ugly head. Sorry Dickie, dear boy, but if a diy chap repaired a boiler, put it all back together, then got a GS registered engineer to do the FAGS testing and that same GS registered engineer found nothing wrong, is the diy chap in the wrong by doing the work in the first place ? After all, nothings been found wrong, so he’s proved his “Competence” ( hypothetical situation ) Please give us an honest answer 😉😉 |
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Post by dickpuller on May 11, 2023 13:38:41 GMT
To prove you’re competent, you must hold the relevant qualifications JJ. The Gas Safe engineer would not test anything he didn’t knowingly repair himself. He’ll not ‘sign off’ anything as safe, as he’s the last man in & liable if someone takes the whole street out in a gas explosion or someone dies of CO poisoning.
There’s no grey areas, it’s clear cut, do Gas Work for financial gain & it goes wrong, you’re someone’s cell bitch!!
A case recently where a DaftyDIYer took the side of his house out, the Beak gave him a Custodial Sentence, as he deemed it as financial gain, just by saving money not paying someone competent & qualified to do the work.
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Post by DIYDafty on May 11, 2023 15:27:00 GMT
To prove you’re competent, you must hold the relevant qualifications JJ. The Gas Safe engineer would not test anything he didn’t knowingly repair himself. He’ll not ‘sign off’ anything as safe, as he’s the last man in & liable if someone takes the whole street out in a gas explosion or someone dies of CO poisoning. There’s no grey areas, it’s clear cut, do Gas Work for financial gain & it goes wrong, you’re someone’s cell bitch!! A case recently where a DaftyDIYer took the side of his house out, the Beak gave him a Custodial Sentence, as he deemed it as financial gain, just by saving money not paying someone competent & qualified to do the work. Yep "for financial gain" is the key phrase. Mind you I'm sure there are plenty of grey areas with plumbers being previously on the GS register but not now or having done equiavalent work experience for the acs qualification . Mind you, I don't blame someone in Dick's position. If he gives any advice without the warnings in theory it could be him in the dock. "Dick told me so your honour...." |
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Post by crowsfoot on May 11, 2023 18:38:49 GMT
Competence is judged by assessing someone's S.E.K.T.U.A.
However, it as been UK law since 1992 that you need some sort of ID to legally work on gas in the UK.
Different statements.
CORGI administered the early scheme which (do correct me if I'm wrong) soon moved on to ACOPS (which was a 5 year assessment).
Gas-safe took over sometime later.
It's quite possible that another organisation could win the contract from gas-safe in the near future.
It's all big money now and you can take it from me that it will not be long before "water-safe" is introduced as a requirement for plumbers.
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Post by battle1066 on May 11, 2023 18:54:57 GMT
Not on all fans that’s where the needle comes into play. If you have access in the appliance, the Fan can remain in place as battle has stated. Of course, it’s illegal to repair any Gas appliance if you’re not ‘competent’ to do so. You must be fully trained, qualified & GS Registered. The full FAGS testing in accordance with 26(9) must be carried out. Here John demonstrates the bearing replacement method, which any RGI Engineer can follow & thereafter test in accordance with 26(9). The comments section makes interesting reading as other have encountered challenging disassembly. |
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Post by DIYDafty on May 11, 2023 18:58:14 GMT
Competence is judged by assessing someone's S.E.K.T.U.A. However, it as been UK law since 1992 that you need some sort of ID to legally work on gas in the UK. Different statements. CORGI administered the early scheme which (do correct me if I'm wrong) soon moved on to ACOPS (which was a 5 year assessment). Gas-safe took over sometime later. It's quite possible that another organisation could win the contract from gas-safe in the near future. It's all big money now and you can take it from me that it will not be long before "water-safe" is introduced as a requirement for plumbers. Not to mention Walk-Safe and Bend-Safe. Vital core skills for any plumber to learn. |
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Post by tomplum on May 11, 2023 21:00:15 GMT
To my memory Corgie was free prior to 1990 but, You needed to be accessed and you work checked twice a year, In 1990 they introduced Acops, That was a course of a few weeks at night skool learning , accepted course of practices in gas installation , You had to pay for the course and then it was legal to work on gas, Then the money men jumped on it and, Now you had to by law join Gorgi But, needed acops to do so and, then pay corgie and have your work inspected every six months, Then the money men went a step further and introduced the new ACS scheme and then, a plumber needed to go to uni to learn a barrow full of none essential info, In 2008 Capita bought the rights because it was a gold mine, A money makers dream, So then the building sites saw this and invented a few more certs to make money, the CSSC cert to get on sites and it became a mafia, working men paying desk jockies for the right to work,,,,  |
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